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Xchange - Discussion Notes

Mealtimes in Luke's Gospel (3)
Feeding 5000: Luke 9.16ff

If you don’t believe in miracles, you would probably explain this miracle in terms of Jesus attacking the consciences of those present – forcing them to share the packed lunches they had secretly packed into their rucksacks. But as with any miracle, the point is not that Jesus can perform supernatural feats. Every miracle in the Gospel is a prophetic pronouncement – an ‘acted parable’.

The mechanics of parables are therefore worth revisiting: the parable is a story that draws the hearers into a ‘new world’. Having seen how this new world functions, the old world with which they have become familiar is revealed for what it is. The response of those who hear the parables is an ‘either-or’. Either they rejoice in the glorious new world into which Jesus calls them, or to retreat into the old world where all was familiar and comfortable. Unfortunately those who retreat now know in their bones that the old world does not work well. Such deep seated discontent is usually dealt with by means of calling those around you to confirm and strengthen by reaffirming all that is right with that world (‘we have Abraham for our father’), or by ridiculing the new world into which Jesus calls us (see the Saducees excuses about resurrection).

If the feeding of the five thousand is one such parable, what are we to make of it? What does it tell us about the new world and the old? I think my first question is why Jesus didn’t let those who had gone out to hear him go off and get their own food. The disciples seemed to be offering a pretty straightforward and sensible suggestion. Why did Jesus need to provide food for everyone, when the impression we have is that this was not necessary?

The first thing to notice is that although there were 5 thousand people present, the only ones to witness this miracle were the disciples. The parable is for them! They learn something that no one else knows. This context of the story helps to understand its point:

1 (9:7-9) – Herod asks ‘who is this…?’
2 (9:10-17) – Jesus feeds those who have come to listen to him
3 (9:18-27) – The disciples answer Herod’s question: ‘The Christ of God’. (The word for Christ is the word for the true ‘King’, which everyone knew Herod was not!)

Then consider the parallel:
9:9 – ‘And [Herod] tried to see him
9:27 – ‘some standing here [Jesus, in private with his disciples] will not taste death before we see the Kingdom of God’.

Some disciples saw what Herod did not; Peter saw what the crowds did not. In both cases, the point of revelation is the feeding of the 5000. The context is that Jesus provides food for those whose attention is fixed upon him. “Tell these stones to become bread” says the devil to Jesus (chapter 4) – and Jesus’ response was to leave the devil to finish the sentence, ‘man does not live by bread alone …’ (But by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.)

Could it be that Peter uses the unusual phrase ‘Christ of God’ in this sense – because Jesus has just demonstrated that he is able to satisfy those who fix their attention upon him? The ‘prophet mighty in word and deed’ has shown that he can do what God alone can do.
Discussion Questions:

1. If you were a disciple, at which point might you realise something ‘unnatural’ was at work here? How would you feel when you realise that you are unwittingly performing a miracle? Should we expect this today?
2. If God can satisfy hunger – why doesn’t he?
3. Herod was a king. Jesus was ‘Christ’ – i.e., anointed king. There is a direct tension here. Where are the direct tensions today between the authority of Christ and secular or religious authorities that are threatened by it? (E.g., think of the archbishop’s ‘crucifixion’ at the hands of the right wing press!)

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