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Xchange - Discussion Notes

Romans Study 6 (Romans 8:18-30)
The Holy Spirit

I consider that the sufferings of today are incomparable with the glory about to be revealed in us. For the creation is on tip toe, longing for the children of God to be revealed. For the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will but by the will of the One who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and will obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. We know that the whole creation has been groaning in labour pains until now, and not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly while we wait for adoption, the redemption of our bodies. For we were saved in hope. Now hope that is seen is not hope. For who hopes for what is seen? But if we hope for what we do not see, we wait for it with patience.

Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we ought, but that very Spirit intercedes with sighs too deep for words. And God, who searches the heart, knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.

But we know that all things work together for good for those who love God, who are called according to his purpose. For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn with a large family. And those whom he predestined he also called; and those whom he called he also justified, and those he justified he also glorified.

It’s everything I wish I didn’t know,
But you give me something I can feel.

1 – Creation

Christians living in Rome are a minority religious sect, on the one hand believing in an all powerful God, but on the other – subject to the awesome power of the Roman Empire and its ‘in-your-face’ religion. The claims of Christ might have seemed distant from the reality in which these Christians lived. This is why Paul has been careful to state at the outset, that he is not ashamed of the Gospel.

In this section of his letter, he points out that it is not only Christians who are subjected to the sinful powers of the age, but the whole of the created order is subject to the same ‘frustration’ felt by Christians themselves. The ultimate source of disintegration in the universe is not the Empire of Rome but the sin of humanity. The whole of the created order is affected by human sin – and what Paul believed twenty centuries ago, has been proven right by the ecological crisis we now face.

Paul’s solution however, is not to give in to despair and consign the creation to climate chaos, waiting nervously for Armageddon to finish it off altogether. The same Spirit who hovered over the waters of the deep in Genesis 1, is the Spirit who raised Jesus from the dead, and the Spirit in the lives of Christians today. Being filled with this Spirit means being agents of God’s justice in the world today.

2 – Praying

But what are Christians to do? We do not know what to pray for, but the Spirit intercedes with inarticulate groans. These groans are not simply the mystical sound of silence, or the miraculous prayers of tongues – as though these methods were the way to go. Rather, they show the Spirit’s identification with our frustration. We see a disintegrating world on the one hand, and we believe in a powerful God of creation on the other! Part of the problem of evil is that it makes no sense, and will always defy our understanding. So living with frustration, and not knowing what to pray lead to prayers which are inarticulate groans. (For instance, we might see clearly enough that governments fail to curb carbon emissions, often helplessly prone to the enormous power of commerce, that would be hampered if serious action were taken on climate change. So, in addition to fighting impossible odds – what can Christians pray that does not sound ridiculous?)

3 - Predestination

This passage is frequently used to prove predestination, that individuals’ eternal fate is decided before any evangelism or personal choice can occur. But clearly here – as is usually the case in Paul – predestination refers rather to the community of God’s people as a whole. It is a people, predestined with a purpose. For Christians living in Rome, the Gospel was not some new idea, predated by the power of Rome. Rather, the God of all creation is also the God who had called a people who were predestined to share in the very suffering that brought ridicule and shame, after the pattern of Jesus himself. And it is this people who are God’s agents of true justice in the world (justified), and who are also predestined to achieve that justice (glorified). Paul has painted here a picture of a world desperately waiting for grace, and the Holy Spirit is the one who brings grace to life among the people of God.

Discussion Questions:

1: If it is the ‘revelation of the sons of God’ that will liberate creation from its bondage to decay – what do you think such revelation means for us today? What does it mean for us to be ‘revealed’ as children of God?

2: Has God designed the universe so that it favours Christians? (v28)

3: "The Lord God Almighty killed [the people who died on 9/11], looked at them in the face, laughed and mocked at each one of them as he cast each one of them into hell".

So said the minister of the infamous Westboro Baptist Church. This fellowship of 150 is probably the most hated Baptist church in human history, and regards those who respond negatively to its ‘God hates fags’ campaign, as persecuting them. They are convinced that they are suffering for Christ’s sake!

In what ways might Roman Christians have suffered as a result of their faith. In what ways today do we suffer because of our faith?


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